Behind the Markets Podcast

Behind the Markets

Hosts Jeremy Schwartz, Global CIO at WisdomTree and Wharton finance Professor Jeremy Siegel, author of Stocks for the Long Run, discuss the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Jeremy Schwartz has served as WisdomTree’s Global Chief Investment Officer since November 2021 and leads the investment strategy team in the construction of WisdomTree’s equity indexes, quantitative active strategies and multi-asset model portfolios. Mr. Schwartz joined WisdomTree in May 2005 as a Senior Analyst, adding to his responsibilities in February 2007 as Deputy Director of Research and thereafter, from October 2008 to October 2018, as Director of Research and from November 2018 to November 2021 as Global Head of Research. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was head research assistant for Professor Jeremy Siegel and in 2022 became his co-author on the 6th edition of the book Stocks for the Long Run. Mr. Schwartz also is co-author of the Financial Analysts Journal paper, What Happened to the Original Stocks in the S&P 500? He received his B.S. in Economics from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and hosts the Wharton Business Radio program Behind the Markets on SiriusXM 132. Mr. Schwartz is a member of the CFA Society of Philadelphia.

  1. 4D AGO

    Powell Should Resign to Safeguard Fed Independence

    Show from 07/18/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel open with a deep dive into the tense dynamics between President Trump and Fed Chair Jerome Powell, with Professor Siegel controversially suggesting Powell should resign to maintain the Fed’s independence. Siegel argues Powell faces only downside if economic conditions worsen, becoming a convenient scapegoat for Trump's economic policies. (23:13) Jeremy and the WisdomTree macro team, including Sam Rines, Jeff Weniger, and Chris Gannatti, then analyze the week's geopolitical developments, the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict, European defense spending trends, implications of Trump's tariffs, and recent earnings from key companies like Netflix, Pepsi, Johnson & Johnson, and Nvidia. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space. Jeff Weniger, CFA serves as Head of Equity Strategy at WisdomTree. In his role, Weniger helps to formulate the firm’s stock market outlook by assessing macro and fundamental trends. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was Director, Senior Strategist at BMO, where he worked in the office of the CIO from 2006 to 2017. He served on the firm’s Asset Allocation Committee and co-managed the firm’s ETF model portfolios for both the U.S. and Canada. In 2013, at the age of 32, Jeff was chosen as the youngest member of BMO’s Global Investment Forum, which collected the firm’s top global strategists to formulate the firm’s official long-term outlook for investment trends and markets. Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/cgannatti?lang=en Follow Jeff Weniger on X: https://x.com/JeffWeniger Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 2m
  2. JUL 11

    Looking for the GeoAlpha?

    Show from 07/11/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the recent tariff headlines and market reactions. Professor Siegel highlights that tariffs and guidance for Q3 are currently driving the markets, but he remains skeptical that new tariffs will significantly impact economic growth. (11:41) Jeremy then talks with Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, and Jeff Weniger about the broader implications of tariff escalation, the surprising resilience of consumer spending, and the ongoing tech dominance, especially around AI, Apple, Nvidia, and Alphabet. The group also covers geopolitical strategies in investing and the rationale behind redefining emerging markets, particularly with a focus on India and excluding China, Korea, and Taiwan. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space. Jeff Weniger, CFA serves as Head of Equity Strategy at WisdomTree. In his role, Weniger helps to formulate the firm’s stock market outlook by assessing macro and fundamental trends. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was Director, Senior Strategist at BMO, where he worked in the office of the CIO from 2006 to 2017. He served on the firm’s Asset Allocation Committee and co-managed the firm’s ETF model portfolios for both the U.S. and Canada. In 2013, at the age of 32, Jeff was chosen as the youngest member of BMO’s Global Investment Forum, which collected the firm’s top global strategists to formulate the firm’s official long-term outlook for investment trends and markets. Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/cgannatti?lang=en Follow Jeff Weniger on X: https://x.com/JeffWeniger Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    53 min
  3. JUL 3

    Jobs Report Better than Feared… But is AI Coming for Your Job?

    Show from 07/03/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel break down the latest jobs report, noting that while headline numbers surprised to the upside, underlying data show mixed signals and tame wage growth. The Professor expects no rate changes from the Fed in July and sees continued market optimism supported by stable money supply and upcoming trade deals. (11:16) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines, Jeff Weniger, and Chris Gannatti for an in-depth discussion on the recent Vietnam trade deal, the stalled Japan negotiations, the AI-driven productivity boom, and shifting market leadership from mega-cap tech to industrials, biotech, and small caps. They also cover the potential impact of AI on employment, trends in nuclear energy and robotics, and the broader bullish momentum across global markets heading into the summer. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space. Jeff Weniger, CFA serves as Head of Equity Strategy at WisdomTree. In his role, Weniger helps to formulate the firm’s stock market outlook by assessing macro and fundamental trends. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was Director, Senior Strategist at BMO, where he worked in the office of the CIO from 2006 to 2017. He served on the firm’s Asset Allocation Committee and co-managed the firm’s ETF model portfolios for both the U.S. and Canada. In 2013, at the age of 32, Jeff was chosen as the youngest member of BMO’s Global Investment Forum, which collected the firm’s top global strategists to formulate the firm’s official long-term outlook for investment trends and markets. Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/cgannatti?lang=en Follow Jeff Weniger on X: https://x.com/JeffWeniger Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    52 min
  4. JUN 27

    H2 Outlook: A Bullish Setup

    Show from 06/27/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the S&P 500 hitting new highs, positive developments from the NATO meetings, and the impact of Middle East dynamics on the markets. The Professor also weighs in on potential Fed moves, a slowing economy, and how firms might use AI to offset tariffs and labor costs. (11:10) Jeremy is joined by Warren Pies of 3Fourteen Research, along with Sam Ryans, Jeff Wenniger, and Chris Gannatti, to unpack second-half market outlooks, the fading oil risk premium, and opportunities in global equities. They cover the technical setup for stocks, the impact of tariffs and a weaker dollar on earnings, and how AI adoption and corporate governance trends could shape markets ahead. Guest: Warren is an Energy Risk Professional – Certified by the Global Association of Risk Professionals. At 3Fourteen, Warren works closely with a team of analysts, data scientists, and developers whose expertise ranges from machine learning, time series analysis, and application development. Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space. Jeff Weniger, CFA serves as Head of Equity Strategy at WisdomTree. In his role, Weniger helps to formulate the firm’s stock market outlook by assessing macro and fundamental trends. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was Director, Senior Strategist at BMO, where he worked in the office of the CIO from 2006 to 2017. He served on the firm’s Asset Allocation Committee and co-managed the firm’s ETF model portfolios for both the U.S. and Canada. In 2013, at the age of 32, Jeff was chosen as the youngest member of BMO’s Global Investment Forum, which collected the firm’s top global strategists to formulate the firm’s official long-term outlook for investment trends and markets. Warren Pies on X: https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/about 3Fourteen Research: https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/about Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Jeff Weiniger on X: https://x.com/JeffWeniger Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    54 min
  5. JUN 20

    Iran Lessons and Too Late Powell Strikes Again

    Show from 06/20/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel assess the Fed's latest policy posture, ongoing tariff impacts, and inflation expectations. The Professor critiques Powell’s stance on tariff-induced inflation, expresses concern over rising jobless claims and layoffs, and notes the Fed’s significant upcoming workforce reduction. He also discusses the subdued market response to Middle East tensions and his views on AI as a productivity offset. (31:41) Jeremy continues the show with Chris Gannatti, Sam Rines, and Jeff Weniger to explore the implications of geopolitical developments, especially the Israel-Iran conflict, on energy and markets. They dive into U.S. trade negotiations, Japan’s inflation dynamics, and emerging AI trends like robotics investment. The team rounds out the episode with discussions on gold’s valuation, currency positioning, and short-term market outlook. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space. Jeff Weniger, CFA serves as Head of Equity Strategy at WisdomTree. In his role, Weniger helps to formulate the firm’s stock market outlook by assessing macro and fundamental trends. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was Director, Senior Strategist at BMO, where he worked in the office of the CIO from 2006 to 2017. He served on the firm’s Asset Allocation Committee and co-managed the firm’s ETF model portfolios for both the U.S. and Canada. In 2013, at the age of 32, Jeff was chosen as the youngest member of BMO’s Global Investment Forum, which collected the firm’s top global strategists to formulate the firm’s official long-term outlook for investment trends and markets. Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Jeff Weiniger on X: https://x.com/JeffWeniger Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 1m
  6. JUN 13

    Trades for this week GeoPol Vol

    Show from 06/13/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the geopolitical ramifications of Israel's recent military strike on Iran, its muted market impact, and the broader implications for inflation and Fed policy. Professor Siegel emphasized Iran’s weakened position, the role of U.S. coordination, and reiterated his view that inflation remains on a downward trend, supporting a Fed rate cut. (10:00) Jeremy continues the conversation with Sam Rines, Jeff Weniger, and Chris Gannatti from WisdomTree. The group explores the geopolitical and market implications of the Israeli strike, oil market reactions, and implications for energy and defense stocks. They also assess inflation data, critique Fed policy, analyze Apple’s innovation struggles, and delve into recent AI developments and global trade negotiations, with particular attention to U.S.-China relations and South Korea’s corporate reform efforts. Guest: Samuel Rines is a Macro Strategist at WisdomTree, where he extends the firm's custom model portfolio management capabilities. Before joining WisdomTree in 2024, he was the Managing Director at CORBU, LLC, leading the PolyMacro advisory product. Christopher Gannatti began at WisdomTree as a Research Analyst in December 2010, working directly with Jeremy Schwartz, CFA®, Director of Research. In January of 2014, he was promoted to Associate Director of Research where he was responsible to lead different groups of analysts and strategists within the broader Research team at WisdomTree. In February of 2018, Christopher was promoted to Head of Research, Europe, where he was based out of WisdomTree’s London office and was responsible for the full WisdomTree research effort within the European market, as well as supporting the UCITs platform globally. In November 2021, Christopher was promoted to Global Head of Research, now responsible for numerous communications on investment strategy globally, particularly in the thematic equity space Follow Sam Rines on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Follow Chri Gannatti on X: https://x.com/SamuelRines Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    53 min
  7. JUN 6

    AI and National Security live from DC

    Show from 06/06/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel analyze the latest employment report, which showed a mixed picture with strong healthcare and entertainment hiring, despite downward revisions in prior months. Professor Siegel emphasized the overall positive market sentiment, noting resilience in spending and projecting potential new all-time highs for the S&P 500. (11:23) Jeremy and Chris Gannatti are joined by Dylan Patel, founder of SemiAnalysis, to explore critical AI infrastructure themes discussed at the SCSP conference. They dive into the challenges of US chip policy, the implications of export restrictions, global supply chain risks, and power constraints facing data centers. Dylan provides a deep dive into geopolitics, national security, and whether AI infrastructure spending—especially in the Middle East—is sustainable or represents the next bubble. Guest: Dylan Patel is the Founder, CEO, and Chief Analyst of SemiAnalysis – the preeminent authority on all things AI and semiconductors. Through Dylan’s unwavering commitment to excellence, he has built the firm from the ground up as the recognized authority on the semiconductor supply chain to the cloud ecosystem, machine learning models, and all things in between. Since 2020, SemiAnalysis has transformed its business from a solo venture into a cohesive and focused team to provide breaking news and in-depth analysis for the most strategic, complex, and escalating challenges in the semiconductor industry. Follow Dylan on X: https://x.com/dylan522p?lang=en Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments SCSP Conference: https://www.scsp.ai/

    1h 17m
  8. MAY 30

    A new weekly market impact: escalate to de-escalate?

    Show from 04/30/25 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel break down the market’s reaction to a dramatically improving trade deficit, discuss expected upward revisions to GDP, and reflect on the latest PCE inflation data. Professor Siegel also shares his views on the Fed’s independence in light of political pressure, tensions with China, and the AI-driven productivity surge. (19:05) Jeremy is joined by Phil Blancato for an in-depth discussion on market positioning, international equities, and the impact of tariffs. They explore bond opportunities, fiscal shifts in Europe, and why small and mid-cap U.S. stocks could see renewed growth. The conversation also covers structural advantages of U.S. consumers and how global trade deals may reshape earnings forecasts. Guest: Philip Blancato is Chief Market Strategist at Osaic, one of the nation's largest providers of wealth management solutions, President and CEO of Ladenburg Thalmann Asset Management, and Chairman of the Ladenburg Investment Policy Committee. As a financial services industry veteran of over 30 years, Philip possesses a specialized knowledge of portfolio and risk management, asset allocation, macroeconomic theory, and constructing and implementing seamlessly integrated platforms of fee-based solutions. Before Ladenburg Thalmann and Osaic, Philip was Managing Director of Advisory Services at PowellJohnson, where he directed the creation and implementation of a suite of fee-based platforms. He also worked for Prudential Securities where he held various positions within the Investment Management Services division before becoming First Vice President and Director of Portfolio Management Programs. During his tenure, Portfolio Management became one of the most successful divisions within Prudential Securities, with assets in excess of $16 billion. Philip regularly appears in national media outlets including the Wall Street Journal, Reuters, CNBC, and Fox Business, and speaks at industry events. He has a Bachelor of Science in Finance from Kean University, and a Marketing Continuing Education degree from New York University. Philip is also an Accredited Investment Fiduciary and has completed the Securities Industry Association accredited program at Wharton Business School. Follow Philp on X: https://x.com/philblancato?lang=en Weekly Market Impact: https://open.spotify.com/episode/78DYJPnxKxNJXZkiINVjpP Wisdom Tree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    40 min
    4.4
    out of 5
    93 Ratings

    About

    Hosts Jeremy Schwartz, Global CIO at WisdomTree and Wharton finance Professor Jeremy Siegel, author of Stocks for the Long Run, discuss the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Jeremy Schwartz has served as WisdomTree’s Global Chief Investment Officer since November 2021 and leads the investment strategy team in the construction of WisdomTree’s equity indexes, quantitative active strategies and multi-asset model portfolios. Mr. Schwartz joined WisdomTree in May 2005 as a Senior Analyst, adding to his responsibilities in February 2007 as Deputy Director of Research and thereafter, from October 2008 to October 2018, as Director of Research and from November 2018 to November 2021 as Global Head of Research. Prior to joining WisdomTree, he was head research assistant for Professor Jeremy Siegel and in 2022 became his co-author on the 6th edition of the book Stocks for the Long Run. Mr. Schwartz also is co-author of the Financial Analysts Journal paper, What Happened to the Original Stocks in the S&P 500? He received his B.S. in Economics from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and hosts the Wharton Business Radio program Behind the Markets on SiriusXM 132. Mr. Schwartz is a member of the CFA Society of Philadelphia.

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